How To Listen To Your Body Instead Of Diet Rules

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an argument with somebody and walked away
feeling like, how do they not know what an

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idiot they are?

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Yeah, all the time.

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Unfortunately, the last time I had it, it
was with me.

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Let's find out more about

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So I was asked the other day what the
difference is between vegan and

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vegetarianism.

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yeah?

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How'd that go?

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It went really well.

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Surprisingly, I was able to spit it out
and be like, no animal products at all for

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vegans.

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And vegetarianism is just like no meat.

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So like you can still have eggs and things
like that.

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But then I got the follow up question of,
well, can you use animal based products?

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Like, you know, leather shoes and things
like that.

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And I was like, of course.

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And they're like, well, a true vegan
probably wouldn't do that.

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Now, would they?

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And I was like,

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Now, a true vegan, if they were not eating
animal products because of the ethical

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reasons of it, you're right.

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I'm doing it for a very selfish reason
because my cholesterol goes through the

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roof if I'm not eating vegan, so I have to
eat vegan.

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Mm -hmm.

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protect myself.

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So very, very selfish.

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But I was able to answer all of these
questions on what is a vegan, what and

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like the different types of vegans, right?

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The people who are self preserving and the
people who are doing it for ethical

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reasons.

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And then I was able to also answer the
vegetarianism one too, because I eat

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mostly vegan.

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However, I will eat fish and chicken and
pork on occasion, but no red meat, no

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dairy, like no, no.

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no eggs or anything like that just because
I have to like watch the cholesterol.

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But I was actually pretty impressed with
the fact that I was able to answer the

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question of what that was.

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is impressive and I can hear the
carnivores in the audience going, but what

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about protein, bro?

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Where are you getting your protein?

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It's tricky, right?

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is really hard because like I work out
pretty hard

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yeah.

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like I have to get it all from like pea
protein and things like that because even

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like the whey protein, like even if I want
to like, like, you know, like protein

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smoothies and things like that, that has
like so much saturated fat and cholesterol

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in it that it impacts my numbers.

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So I have to get really creative with it.

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So and I have been reading a ton of
articles on how like meat protein.

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is higher quality than other types of
protein out there.

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Now, I've also been reading a whole bunch
of articles on how dairy is really good

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for you and how processed foods are really
good for you and things like that.

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And then you take a look back at like
human history and like there's a reason

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why 90 % of the population of Asia,

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is lactose intolerant because they've
never eaten dairy in the history of their

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people.

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So like things like dairy are there were
marketing campaigns to tell us that dairy

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is good for you.

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I was having a conversation with my
girlfriend's son the other day.

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He's like, no milk is good for you.

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Isn't it?

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There were so many marketing campaigns.

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I saw one the other day from the 80s of
kids sitting at a kitchen table.

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complaining about drinking their milk and
they didn't want to drink their milk and

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the mom like looked outside and she's
like, well, your dad doesn't drink milk

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and dad was outside with a lawnmower and
his arms fell off on the lawnmower.

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She's like, and then the kids were just
like drinking, like you're just chugging

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the milk down.

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Like there's literally all of these
marketing campaigns that are out there

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that convince people they do studies, they
do research papers.

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It looks really accurate.

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It looks really real to tell you things
like milk is good for you.

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You get enough calcium.

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And if you're eating a good diet, you get
enough calcium.

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You don't need milk for that.

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Like the human body doesn't actually react
very well to dairy products.

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Like.

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Scientifically, we are adapting to it and
we think it's okay.

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But like, again, most of Asia, lactose
intolerant for a reason.

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They've never had it.

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Who lives the longest on this planet?

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Got us.

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No, seriously, who does?

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It's populations in Asia who don't eat
dairy, who eat mostly plant diets and very

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minimal meat, no processed foods.

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So like, it is scary how...

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And I don't know what the answer is.

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I don't know if meat protein is actually
better than other sources of protein.

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However, I know that if I eat enough other
sources of protein, I still feel good and

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I'm okay.

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So I don't...

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I can't tell you if that's a marketing
campaign.

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I can't for, you know, like the meat
industry, but holy shit, like there's, you

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can't even like peel back the curtain and
figure out what the truth is on all this

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stuff.

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It is clearly a marketing campaign that
we've been fed that, you know, this is

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good for you, this is good for you, that's
bad for you, that's bad for you.

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This is better than this thing, that's
better than this thing, but like, who

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knows the truth?

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How do you figure out the truth?

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Well, I mean, to me, the answer is you try
it and pay attention to what happens,

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right?

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But the thing on the dairy topic for just
a minute, just side tangent, I cannot tell

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you how many times in my life I have
either seen someone drinking a glass of

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milk or because I can't, I literally can't
even think about drinking a glass of milk

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and gross me out.

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But I cannot avoid the thought of who was
the first person to look at a cow and to

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see milk and go, hmm, looks good.

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It's like what other animal on the planet
consumes the milk of another animal?

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It's only people.

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People are the only ones doing this.

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And I cannot, like it must have been,
like, why would you even milk the cow?

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Like I don't, I don't understand, you
know, maybe this is common knowledge for

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other people and I'm just an idiot, but I
cannot put myself in the shoes of the

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person that one day saw that milk was
coming from a cow and went, I wonder what

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that tastes like.

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Well, let's take it a step further.

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Who was the super bored person who figured
out you could take that same milk and

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churn it into butter?

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I mean, seriously, hours of churning,
churning.

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get this nice and moldy.

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I bet it's delicious.

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How did that happen?

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I don't know.

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I probably don't want to know.

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It's probably disgusting, but.

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the rest of human history, an accident was
all an accident.

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Like penicillin was an accident.

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Literally.

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He had a, the dude had a whole bunch of
Petri dishes and he went away on vacation

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for a week and came back and nothing had
grown and figured out that like some

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penicillin flew in from the window and
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Like we literally have antibiotics because
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their shit up.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, I think to try to clumsily and
lazily answer your question, you eat it

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and see how you feel.

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I've been a vegetarian for most of my
life, but I rely heavily on dairy for a

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lot of the protein that comes from cheese
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And a lot of my calories come from that.

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I coincidentally have gone the other way
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into my diet.

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Occasional other meats, like if I'm at a
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'oeuvres of some kind of meat, I'm going
to eat them, right?

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Because they're out.

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It's going to get thrown away if somebody
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So I've loosened my restrictions on what
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But part of that has also led to me being
a little too loosey goosey with the

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calories.

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and kind of feeling like I don't know if
this is I was actually listening back to

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one of our recent shows where I was like,
hey, I'm just sort of eating when I feel

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like it now and eating what I feel like.

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And I just got curious about what does
that like equate to?

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Right.

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I wasn't I wasn't doing the math.

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I was just sort of living it.

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And it was too much.

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And so I've had to put put some, you know,
guards in place and start tracking things

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again, because I do have goals.

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calories a day is too much?

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As it turns out, I mean, who knew, right?

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If only there was some study or some posts
on social media about how much to eat,

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that would be really helpful, right?

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If somebody could get on that, that'd be,
that'd be really beneficial for me.

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but it's, it is so interesting how when
you do pay close attention to what you're

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eating and how you feel as a result, you
can make better progress on whatever

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you're trying to do it, whether it's
becoming vegetarian, becoming vegan,

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trying to cut calories.

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If you're not paying attention, you're
just drifting and you're not going to get

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there.

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in mine.

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vegan, right?

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Like anyone who's never tried to go vegan,
I recommend you not do it unless you

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absolutely have to, because a vegan diet
is easier now than it was when I did it 20

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years ago.

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But there is meat products and fucking
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It is so hard to live that lifestyle on a
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time.

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yeah, no, I find it, again, like I'm not
doing it for ethical reasons.

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I'm doing it to manage cholesterol because
my cholesterol was so high that the doctor

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was like, I need you on statins now.

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And I was like, nope.

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Let me see if I can dial this down myself.

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And I am taking a whole, it's not just the
vegan diet though.

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Like it's not just that.

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Like I am taking a whole bunch of
supplements that help with it as well.

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However, it this just brings me like full
circle back to all these conversations

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that you and I have around what if I'm
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What if this thing that I have believed
since I was a child is wrong and I've been

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living my life, you know, assuming that
this is right.

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You know, the I feel like I'm a little
conspiracy theory here.

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However.

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I don't think I'm too far off in the
field, but like, you know, I work with

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marketing people.

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Like their brains are literally wired to
get you to believe something that makes

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you consume their product.

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Period.

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Whether it's true or not.

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Right?

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I mean, the tobacco companies, they knew
cigarettes cause cancer.

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years and years and years and years.

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And even to this day, there's still
advertisements, right?

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They're limited in what they can do, but
they're trying to get people to smoke.

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So it just brings me back to like whether
you're vegan, carnivore, whatever,

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whatever you believe.

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It's this whole thing of like, how do you
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Like we live in a day and age where like
we have access to all the information, all

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of it.

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And exactly.

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And, you know, like you've seen that
quote, you know, don't believe everything

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you see on the Internet, Abraham Lincoln.

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Right.

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How do you tear all that stuff apart?

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Like it's just, you know, in our children.

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daughter was like, well I saw it on the
internet so it must be true.

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How do you pull this stuff apart?

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And some of it, some of it again this
vegan meat protein, meat protein versus

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pea protein, versus all this stuff like I
don't know.

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And I'll freely admit like I don't know if
meat protein is better than you know pea

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protein.

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I sure know I like a steak a whole lot
better than I like pea protein.

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That's for sure.

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much tastier.

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But we just keep going back to this, like,
what if I'm wrong?

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Like, it just takes like a moment of being
open -minded enough to like look at both

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sides and accepting them both as valid and
like doing proper research and like, you

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know, coming up with a conclusion, right?

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Like we are all so dead set on these
beliefs that we have.

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Like, I mean, I've gotten into arguments
with people that believe something that

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they believe since childhood, you know,
that they just won't give up on like, you

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know.

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spelling the Berenstain bears, because
they saw it one way as a kid and now it's

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something else.

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Exactly, exactly.

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I literally had an argument with somebody
who thought it was still okay to like hit

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your kid.

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Things like that because that's just...

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that was acceptable norms.

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the shit out of me and that's, I turned
out fine.

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Yeah, as his head ticks and gets exactly.

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So.

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but here's the thing with this, right.

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And I think that there is such an emphasis
culturally on picking a side.

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No one no one lobbies for the middle
anymore.

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Here's here's an idea.

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What if you have meat protein and pea
protein, right?

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Like maybe less of the meat if it's
screwing up your cholesterol.

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Like that's where it is individual.

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If you eat this and it fucks you up.

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stop eating it, right?

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Or eat less of it, eat it once in a while.

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Like, I just can't help think of again,
like when I when I traveled to Europe, I

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was so curious about the lifestyle, like
the, the longevity of people that live in

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the places that I was in, because everyone
seemed healthy, happy, chill, relaxed, I

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didn't see anybody entering their calories
in their Fitbit app, right?

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I saw them smoking outside, eating pasta,
and then meandering lazily through the

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city like

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super chill and living to be over 80 years
old.

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And I was like, they're not freaking out.

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You know what, you know why they're living
long.

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They're not freaking out about every
decision and which team to be on when it

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comes to what I should put in my face
every day.

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Like to me, I think the killer is the
stress that we put on picking a side and

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then having to stick to that side.

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Because if you pick team carnivore, if
anyone sees you eating a piece of lettuce,

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you're fucking dead.

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You pick vegetarian and you have a piece
of chicken on a cracker.

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you're roasted, you're done, like you're
out of the club.

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It's like, like, what if you just like,
what if it's okay to just have a little

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bit of all of it and have balance, like,
everything that when you see these

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arguments, it always results in maybe we
can meet in the middle, because in the

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middle is the truth.

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It's okay to have a little bit of
processed food, it's not going to kill

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you.

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Don't eat it all day, every day for
everything.

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It's okay to have a couple glasses of wine
unless you have a very serious alcoholism

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problem, don't have a couple glasses of
wine.

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if you can just temper your shit and not
go all in on one thing or another, I think

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you'll find that your stress comes down
and all of a sudden you feel a lot better

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and you're not dealing with a lot of the
problems that you're dealing with to begin

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with.

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Yep, absolutely.

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Just to, like, I would be just as happy
driving a Ford as I would be a Chevy.

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And I know there's people out there that
are gonna tell me I'm wrong, both ways.

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Chevy.

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Fuck those.

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No, I'm just kidding.

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I will tell you this though, if you start
singing about your truck, I'm out.

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I'm not listening to that.

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That is a team I'm fervently against.

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I'm not going to listen to the song where
you sing about your truck.

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and how it did me wrong.

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That's right.

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That's it.

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I'm gonna come up with a song on how my
truck did me wrong.

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It won't take me long.

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put a beat to that later.

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Seriously, the quick tangent by my kids
were listening to some song the other day

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and it was like a hip hop song but the
lyrics were fully country and I was I'm

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out.

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heard that it was a...

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No, I heard the reverse.

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It was an old hip -hop song that they took
to country.

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I mean, I'm not a big country fan.

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Like, talk about living in the middle.

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Yeah, there is, on one side there's
country and then on the other side there's

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everything else.

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I'm fully on everything else.

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No country.

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The...

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offended the country fans.

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I hope we've offended the vegans, the
vegetarians, the carnivores, the drinkers,

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the non drinkers, the smokers, the non
smokers, Chevy and Ford people.

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Anybody else we pissed off here?

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That might be enough for today.

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yeah, it's probably, the people who beat
their kids and not beat their kids.

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Yeah, we got that.

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the ex prisoners, the current prisoners.

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Yeah, I think I think we've checked the
boxes.

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I think we did a good job here today.

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I mean, this is how to not grow your show.

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That's how to not make friends and
influence all of your enemies.

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All right, well, that's enough for us.

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Thank you so much for listening.

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I hope that the conclusion you draw from
this is that whatever the thing is that

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you're freaking out about and all in on,
you're probably wrong a little bit.

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And that's okay.

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That means there's room to grow.

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So get out there and grow a little bit.

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I hope this is, that's right.

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I hope this has resonated with you.

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If you know somebody who's struggling with
any of these issues that we've talked

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about, we've kind of talked about a lot
around nutrition.

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and other things as it turned out.

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But feel free to share this with anybody
who might benefit from it that will help

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us accomplish our mission of helping as
many people as possible that struggle with

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the same crap that you and I do.

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Thanks so much for listening.

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We'll be back next week at thefitmess .com
with a brand new episode.

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See you around.